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I am a twenty-eight-year-old straight woman who has been dating a twenty-four-year-old straight male for two months. Recently, I gave him oral sex while he was seated naked on my couch. The next day, as I went to sit on the couch, I noticed a brown stain on the cushion that looked highly suspicious. I have come to the conclusion that it was, in fact, poo. The stain had a streakish quality and was located where his buttcrack region was placed during the encounter. And furthermore, I smelled it. And I know what shit smells like!

Okay, so the question: WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?! Is this normal for men? Can I talk to him about this? Should I? I would like to be open and honest with him, but how do I even broach the subject?

I suspect that he knows that shit stains are an issue for him, because we were recently packing for a weekend trip and he got upset when I went to fold/pack his underwear. He wouldn’t let me handle the undies because he didn’t want me to “see any stains.” I didn’t think anything of it, assuming that he left occasional skid marks as some guys do, and I just made a joke about my period panties and moved on. But now I am annoyed. He should have realized what had happened when I blew him and at least tried to clean it up while I was sleeping or otherwise occupied.

Is pooping on the couch a deal breaker? Or can we be “cleaner” in the future and protect my bedding and furniture somehow? — Shit On Furniture Annoys Girl A Lot

Seeing as he’s aware that he has a problem — he acknowledged as much when he kept his underwear out of your hands — this straight boy, at the very least, should’ve thought to spot-check your sofa after grinding his ass into it for the duration of that blowjob. But you have to take some responsibility, too, SOFAGAL. You encouraged this young man to plop his naked ass down on your sofa and proceeded to engage in the kinds of behaviors that would cause any man to (1) open his legs and (2) grind his ass into whatever he happened to be sitting on. And where bare asses are set, shit stains are always a possibility.

So I’d say you’re both at fault, SOFAGAL. Knowing what he knows about his own ass, the boy should’ve eyeballed your sofa and discreetly cleaned up after himself. But, again, shit stains can happen when you allow a nude man to sit his bare ass on your sofa, SOFAGAL, and commence blowing him. If I may invoke/resurrect a Rumsfeldism: Prior to this incident, blowjob-related shit stains on the sofa were, for you, an unknown unknown — something you didn’t know you didn’t know — but in the wake of this incident, shit stains are now a known known. And knowing what you now know, SOFAGAL, you might consider placing a towel — might I suggest a beige one? — on any sofa that you invite this man, or any other man, to set his bare bottom on prior to blowing him.

Finally, SOFAGAL, how to broach the subject? With a sense of humor. Sex can be messy, and shit happens quite literally sometimes — and not just to men. Women have assholes, too, and shit-stained panties are a documented phenomenon. Let him know that he tagged your sofa — try to smile when you say it — and then head to the nearest gay neighborhood to pick up some brown or beige bath towels. And, come on, how bad can it really have been if you didn’t notice when your nose was down there?

My wife and I got into S&M about two years ago, and it’s done a wonderful job of spicing up an otherwise very vanilla marriage. It was the odd happy ending to the usual doomed story of “husband who knows he’s submissive finally gets courage to tell vanilla wife.” We’re constantly upping our game—we went from pegging and D/s to flogging to hardcore beatings pretty swiftly, and we want to continue to push our boundaries.

Now we’re looking into electrical play. And our question is about cattle prods. Are they safe? We’ve seen a couple of BDSM porn movies where a cattle prod gets used, but we have no idea if these are prop cattle prods or the real deal. And are there any books out there on safe electro-stim play? — Sub Needs Some Shocks

“Electric play is a great addition to BDSM, but cattle prods are a bad choice as they’re not designed for use on humans,” says David X, an electrical engineer who used to work in tech but today designs e-stim products for Eros Tek. “There are several reports of muscle injuries and even a few broken bones from prod-induced involuntary muscle contractions,” David continues. “Burns and nerve damage are also possible. There really isn’t any way to make a cattle prod safe, but if you must, use it only below the waist and make each shock as brief as possible. Make sure the submissive does not have weight or tension on their limbs and has room for safe movement.”

And if you’re attached to your balls, SNSS, and would like to remain attached to them, make sure they’re not tied to anything. But, again, neither David nor I think you should use a cattle prod at all. David has a bias, of course, and would prefer to see you purchase something designed for use on humans — preferably something designed by him — but your bias-free advice professional strongly agrees with David: Invest in a product designed for use on humans.

“The best devices for BDSM electric play are made for that purpose,” says David. “They can deliver very intense sensations while being much safer than a cattle prod. As for books, you’re best off following the instructions that come with whatever device you purchase. This is another advantage of the BDSM products — they come with instructions for using them on humans instead of cattle.”

You can see David’s products at www.erostek.com.

I’m a twenty-three-year-old straight female. I have been friends with this guy for the past two and a half years and would like to continue. Problem is he gets jealous (because he has the hots for me, but I’m not interested) and a bit distant whenever there is a boyfriend/date in the picture. I’m not sure if I should approach him about this or not. Just Friends Jealousy

Maintaining a friendship with a man who has the “hots” for you when you’re not interested isn’t kind, JFJ, it’s emotionally sadistic. Maybe it’s thoughtless sadism on your part, but it’s sadism nonetheless. Because for as long as you’re hanging out with him, JFJ, he’s going to delude himself into thinking that he has a chance with you. And every time a potential boyfriend appears on the horizon — someone for whom you do have the hots — he’s going to realize, once again, that he’s a fool and, perhaps, being played for one. (How many times has he helped you move?)

Your friendship, while a marvelous treasure under most circumstances, is not a consolation prize for this guy. It’s a torment. He doesn’t have the strength to cut you out of his life — something that, if he’s reading, I would strongly advise him to do — so you’re going to have to do it for him, JFJ. If you don’t, well, you can’t claim that your sadism is thoughtless anymore. It’s overt, conscious cruelty — “mean girl” bullshit. And if you’re not careful, Garfunkel & Oates will write a song about you.

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Comments ( 15 )

Gesh - wait a second! Being friends with someone who likes you when you aren’t interested romantically doesn’t make you mean. It’s not stated that she’s taking advantage of his feelings for favors (like helping moving). It’s a big deal to cut someone out of your life that you’re good friends with. To think that I would never be able to speak to a male friend of mine again, ever, because he developed feelings for me seems extreme and very sad. Perhaps they could have a friendship break for a few months and/or the fella could up his dating and attempt to be open to feelings for other women - isn’t that what people naturally do rather then *leave my life for liking me*? There are two people involved here and I think it may be a bit unfair to to say all the blame and work is one person’s fault/job. People can’t help it when they don’t have feelings for a person anymore then they can help it when they do - you get stung, it happens.

Wendy commented on Jun 11 09 at 9:29 pm

SOFAGAL: This is an educational issue. I had to teach my 7 year-old stepson how to wipe. And yes, I am still trying to teach my xx-year old husband. Skidmarks on undies; check. Skidmarks on sheets; check. Skidmarks on couch; not yet (note to self, pick the locale of blowjobs carefully). And yes, girls shit, too, but they learn to wipe.

REW commented on Jun 11 09 at 10:05 pm

SOFAGAL–and gals everywhere. I have recently learned that wiping is not the only poop issue. Many don’t know how to properly WASH the offending area. http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/htf/755891987.html

p00p commented on Jun 12 09 at 6:46 am

Um, maybe I’m trippin, but my husband never seems to have poop issues and neither do I. It’s simple hygiene, wipe and wash thoroughly. Hell, buy those wet wipes if there are extenuating circumstances.

As for the admirer situation, that’s an admirer’s worst nightmare–revealing your feelings and losing the friendship. Seriously, when you’re crushing on someone, you know the risks, but you hope that, at least, you can maintain the platonic relationship that you originally had.

thegoodfairy commented on Jun 12 09 at 8:57 am

I feel like how she acts towards her friend determines whether or not it’s cruel. I’ve had friends who I liked but who I don’t think actually returned feelings actually act in a flirty manner towards me. That, I think was cruel, and I wish I’d had the balls to cut them out. On the other hand, if people are civil, nice, friendly but don’t say things that could be misconstrued or give false hope with any regularity, I don’t really think there’s a problem with it. If you’re friends with someone you crush on, hopefully there are some reasons you want to hang out with them besides just finding them fuckable.

em commented on Jun 13 09 at 9:57 am

The friend who does not return a romantic interest is not necessarily cruel by maintaining a friendship - and completely severing contact with the admirer can be more painful to him (in my case to me) than simply not returning his desire for you. Clarity about your feelings is absolutely essential, as is accurate appraisal of the effects on your own and your friend’s lives and emotional development. Sorry, this is an existential predicament, and cutting the friendshp off for this reason alone…. well, I wish my friend had not. I still love her, have for 30+ years, probably always will, and very much miss the chance to see her now and then.

Friend commented on Jun 13 09 at 12:10 pm

I’m so glad to read that last one. Time to cut this one girl out of my life

david commented on Jun 13 09 at 4:53 pm

I think it’s cruel to yourself to tolerate someone or something your interested. Sometimes it comes with a reward - like sitting through a calculus class in high school, but in this case, you got to realize friends come friends go. If she doesn’t get you up, sexually or intellectually - she gets you down. She’ll find someone else to crush on and get crushed by. Life’s a cycle.

Mobscene commented on Jun 15 09 at 6:09 am

I think it’s cruel to yourself to tolerate someone or something your not interested in*.

Mobscene commented on Jun 15 09 at 6:10 am

Maintaining a relationship with a guy you don’t want to fuck IS sadistic, HOWEVER: the guy may know that and not care and be hoping that if he hangs around long enough the girl may come around. It;s been known to happen. This woman says she’s not interested now and she isn’t, but women have been known to change their minds about things. They both should just go into using each other with their eyes open.

Duh! commented on Jun 15 09 at 11:22 am

As a woman in this situation right now, my heart is breaking as I try to make this decision. I love him dearly, he is younger and it just isn’t going to happen for us. However, with that said, I cannot imagine him not in my life. Am I hurting myself, yeah probably. I guess I am picking up crumbs in being with him as I know he likes being with me too.

Lisa commented on Jul 09 09 at 1:42 am

I guess I’m guilty of this myself. But after a few months, I’ve decided I’m willing to give this guy a shot - so one night we kissed and I opened up to him. He is acting really strangely now, and I can’t get any answers from him. Maybe he’s scared, I don’t know…at any rate, I’m sad that maybe I’ve killed the friendship. But I was pretty sure that he liked me. I’ve grown close to him, but we also work together. I’m going to miss him if he keeps ignoring me.

SJ commented on Jul 16 09 at 10:37 pm

Sofagirl-how bout a shower before sex…or a wet washcloth..then towel on a couch..forget the poo..even for cum yours as well…friend with hots for you…i just went thru this. I so didn’t want 2b cruel..but I’m engaged and after multiple attempts he just deleted me from facebook. Do I think about him in “that” way…of course but conscience and common sense tell me that I need to keep my fiance first and not aknowledge the feeling as not to give false hope.

Jane commented on Jul 25 09 at 3:15 am

Lisa who commented on July 9, situation reversed, it’s the woman being hurt..I am in the same situation. I totally fell so hard for this guy and now he has hooked up with someone else and I am devastated. He has sent me mixed messages though, so I had been confused. I know I should move on, but I just can’t seem to. I never felt such a strong connection to anyone, I just can’t believe he doesn’t feel it too. He is also very shy, he doesn’t talk about our relationship much, except to say we are just friends. But his body language says he wants more than friendship, the way he looks at me. Also being very physically affectionate at times. Sometimes though I think he is just being cruel, because I think he knows how I feel. Anyway, it really hurts a lot, but yet I don’t want to lose him out of my life. Crazy huh.

Susan commented on Aug 19 09 at 9:41 pm

Not to be gross, but effective wiping is not always so easy. I discovered this at a relatively older age. I could very easily have been the guy on the couch. For some TP alone doesn’t always get everything ship shape. I was having some skid mark issues, even tough I wiped until nothing more showed up on the TP. On a camping trip a friend brought wet baby wipes to use instead of TP. It was quickly clear that they get you MUCH cleaner down there. Now I use a bit of TP first and then reach for the wet naps. Fresh and clean bungholio, no more skids, happy anus.

Reformed Wiper commented on Aug 30 09 at 1:42 pm

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