
Dear Miss Information,
I’ve noticed that you’re pretty vehemently against extracurricular activities. I happen to be in a relationship with a hubby who is into being a cuckold. He even gets me ready for dates and vets potential partners. I was completely faithful for thirteen years (we’ve been married for eighteen) and probably wouldn’t have done anything like this without his prompting. I’ve had a couple of affairs, both of which were with married guys who didn’t tell their wives. In an ideal world, the wives would be cool with this but I haven’t found another couple where the wife wants the hubby to sleep around, swingers excluded. Hubby has the option to go out as well, but he doesn’t seem interested in taking it — he’s more interested in my adventures and supporting me in my “sexual athleticism.” What would you do in my situation? Have affairs knowing that my hubby is happy, or keep vows that he no longer wants? — Having Fun with Life’s Lemonade
Dear Having Fun,
I think you may have misunderstood me. The only extracurricular activities I disapprove of are mandatory fundraisers (”Hello, sir or ma’am. Would you like to buy an oversized novelty tin of popcorn?”) and the Young Republicans Club.
I’m all for whatever relationship arrangement works best for both partners. It’s screwing around behind someone’s back that I don’t like. So when you read my response to the husband who wants to see an escort because his sex life is boring or the girlfriend who hits the gay clubs because she can’t confess her pussy cravings to her boyfriend, I want you to keep that in mind. I may be a white girl from the Mitten State, but I’m not so square that I disapprove of all alternative lifestyles.
Keep having your affairs and cuckolding your husband. You’ll probably sound the preachy alarm again, but Miss Info would love it if you stuck to men with informed and willing partners. Games are more fun when all the players know they’re playing, whether it’s a gang bang or touch football (sometimes one and the same). If you’re having a hard time rustling up dates, you may want to try Ultimate Cuckold (warning: really bad 1996-style design), Cuckold Place, or Craigslist. Are any of my readers into this? Where did you dig up your third-party stud?
Dear Miss Information,
So, the planets must be aligning or something because suddenly, out of nowhere, I’ve had a string of minor hookups with different girls. All of them have expressed interest in dating, and I’m attracted to each of them, but this surplus of options is causing me angst. I’m not built to be a player, and the thought of juggling all these girls makes me feel like I’m being disingenuous. I don’t want to hurt anyone or fuck them over. At the same time I’m well aware that dating opportunities in New York often evaporate as quickly as they appear. My friends say to pursue everything. What does social protocol dictate, and how can I best navigate this lovely minefield? — Not Hugh Hefner
Dear Not Hugh Hefner,
Before you do anything, you first have to figure out what you want. A girlfriend? A casual lay? Several girlfriends? A wife? Along those same lines, figure out the reasoning behind it. Did you just end it with a long-term girlfriend and want to wait before you get serious again? Are you feeling a little pathetic pouring your heart out to your dog and want a real girlfriend to curl up on your lap while you watch 24?
Generally speaking, the more serious your relationship goals, the fewer girls you’ll want to be seeing at one time. I agree with your friends that you don’t have to winnow it down right away. Get to know these women a little better and have some fun. But be aware that most women (and men) who are looking for a steady commitment aren’t keen on being one of many. They may be cool with an open-ended arrangement early on, but eventually you’ll have to make a choice.
As for questions of etiquette and logistics, honesty is the only way to go. All these lovelies should know you’re not interested in dating anyone exclusively, preferably before the naked thing happens. In-person is best, but do it over the phone or via email if you have to. The most important thing is that you make the information known.
Expect varying reactions. Everyone has their own ideas of how dating should be conducted. If you do your best to be forthright and considerate with all parties involved, there shouldn’t be a problem. However, if one or more of the women share the same name, neighborhood or employer, forget everything I just said and run to another city.
Dear Miss Information,
I’m good friends with most of my exes. One is even my best friend. Here’s the problem: Every relationship I’m in follows this pattern: I fall head over heels for a guy, who seems into me but soon says he just wants to be friends. And it’s not an excuse — he really does want to be friends. This switch can happen before or after anything physical happens. And while I’m happy to have the guy friends I already have, I don’t really need any more — which makes me reluctant to date at all. So how do I get around that “switch” moment? I want a boyfriend, dammit, not more boy-friends. — I Have Enough Friends
Dear I Have Enough Friends,
Either you’re going after guys who aren’t genuinely interested in you or your dating skills are lacking. Those are the only two explanations that I can think of. Let’s address the former first and the latter last, after which I will congratulate myself on having finally mastered the correct meaning of these terms after years of struggling with the dictionary.
When a guy’s not interested, I Have Enough Friends, he’ll usually let you know. Long lags between phone calls, lame emails that don’t really say anything, unreturned texts and infrequent, unpredictable communications, that pesky “girlfriend” person who keeps showing up — these are all signs. Because you’re head over heels, you will choose to ignore these signs and see only that Snookums Wookums Pandaface is responding to your advances. This creates a relationship that’s unstable and one-sided. You wind up as Velma when you want to be Daphne.
The easiest way to prevent this switch from playing out? Stop calling. Two things will happen: 1. He’ll realize you’re a hot commodity and up the wooing OR 2. He’ll pleasantly vanish from your life. No uncomfortable conversation on why you have no interest in watching him play Wii with his boys. Win-win, baby.
On to your dating chops. First instinct is that you’re coming off too aggressive. I don’t want to go with that theory because it’s based on very limited information, and it’s bullshit how girls are always being told they’re too aggressive. (”What do you mean you called him? Didn’t you see what they said on Tyra? How dare you!” It’s like the 1950’s all over again.)
Since you’re such good friends with your exes, why not lube ‘em up with alcohol and talk to them one-on-one. See what you can glean from them regarding the way you act on dates. What was it about you that they liked or disliked? How did they feel in the beginning, middle and end of the relationship? What was the turning point (a particular date, conversation, etc.) that led them to believe you two were better off in a state of not-fucking? I’m sure some of your pals will give softball answers or evade the questions, but there may be a few pieces of viable info you can use to prevent the next switch from happening.
Good luck, and remember that one advantage of guy friends is that they hang out with other guys. A smart hussy will work it from all the angles.
I can’t wait to see responses to I Have Enough Friends. Boy that seems just a little too familiar to me. I always figured it was because I sucked in bed (metaphorically speaking) or something…
Re: NHH. I dunno. If I got a text froma dude saying, BTW, we’re not exclusive, I’d be all, whatevs, douche. Nonexclusivity is the baseline assumption–you don’t have to tell me that. Even if you’re not dating someone else, you’re free to do so (and not talk about it) until it comes up. When should it come up? When someone asks. If it’s important to me, I will ask you. Otherwise, making a point of letting me know there are other women seems pointless and, again, douchey. Although my opinion may be influenced by personal experience–every single guy who has pulled this move was a jackhole, and with the nice guys, it just naturally came up.
For I Have Enough Friends, I would suggest looking at how you are meeting these guys, how you wind up having sex in the first place, and how quickly expectations crop up. A single guy will almost never turn down the opportunity for doing “the naked thing” if there’s an initial connection and you seem eager for it. The guy will not be seriously thinking about the potential for a long-term relationship at that point. Once that initial nakedness is over, then he’ll start thinking. If you want to avoid this, you’ll either need to vet the guys better to see if you’re long-term compatible before having sex, or just decide you’re having fun that may or may not turn into anything, and don’t fall head-over-heels too quickly.
For I Have Enough Friends. This may be TOTALLY NOT TRUE but I feel I have to say…I have a few girlfriends like that. And no one has the heart to tell them they’re just way to eager and play the role of the mom/kid sister from the get go. I have no idea how you are on dates but I do know that if you do that, it’s likely none of your guy friends (even with alcohol) will cop to just finding you unfuckable. It may sound stupid, but I think the best way to get a guy interested in more is to be 100% confident in your sexual self before you go on a date. It doesn’t mean you have to wear a miniskirt with no panties or give your straw fellatio at dinner. But the girls I know who have too many guy-friends are usually the ones who have some trouble expressing their sensual side-in whatever form it may take. Don’t be afraid to trade some of your cute or fun or “just one of the guys” side some drop dead fuckable. If your completely confident in said fuckability and don’t need to prove it, your boy-friends will be kicking themselves for passing you up.
It would be nice if you could provide some examples of what you’re talking about ECJ, in addition to the examples of what you’re NOT talking about
I have an opposite problem: I have no men friends. The only men that seem to be around are the men that want to date me and I don’t have the heart to string them along, so I just usually stop all contact. Can you do the opposite: switch someone who wants to date you into your buddy? Would you go on a few dates first then?
EC/IHEF - It’s possible that you’re not seeing the right guys and you’re the one who needs to make some sort of switch. Give yourself some time off from the “I’m in love with my best friend” relationships. Have a hot fling or two with someone who’s sort of not your type, so you won’t be tempted to seriously date. Don’t try to please anyone else by watching football, baking cookies, or performing fellatio on straws (or the equivalent). Just do what makes you feel really sexy. Letting yourself figure out what you want in a purely sexual relationship should get you out of the perpetual friend zone and on the road to sexual confidence.
I am in a cuckhold relationship. Married for 25 years and have been *non-traditional* for 19 of those years. It’s not for everyone, but it works for us. I agree with Erin that having affairs with married guys is bad karma. I am a woman who enjoys the company of young men, and I really am stringent on them being single. I/we went down the swinger route for a few years, as well as playing with a lot of our vanilla friends. We lost a few because of our lifestyle, but oh well, I guess …
We got out of the swinger scen because hubby was not into being with other women and I’m not bi, which is what most couples seem to be into these days. I’d try Adult Friend Finder, it’s been my best channel for being able to express my desires and situations, but as with any website, vet them carefully and thoroughly. I would absolutely LOVE to connect with another woman who is in my situation, we do exist!
I just had my first long term boyfriend tell me that he just wanted to be friends, glad to see that im not the only one that has the same line of thinking. Friends is nice way to end things but am i going to get this line for the rest of my life?
also quick question: how can we send questions to miss information? im new to this site so pointers would be helpful, thanks
Ashley Madison and Alt are both filled with single guys looking for married women. Put up an ad saying you are looking for a “bull” and you’ll get tons of responses.
If anyone figures out the solution to avoid being “friends”, please let the world know. I am in my mid-30s and am plagued by this same problem. Recently I dated a guy nearly 10 times before we slept together. And then after sleeping together twice, I was slowly let go (in a nice enough way, but still…). I don’t think that I’m a dud in bed (my ex-boyfriends certainly thought that we had fulfilling sex lives). Maybe I’m just not finding the right guy. Or maybe I send off some sort of signal that says that I’m not interested?
For NHH - I agree with OF. Non-exclusivity should be assumed, at LEAST during the first month or so of dating (first 4-6 dates)…being too aggressive about “oh, I’m seeing other people, just to let you know” too early on, can come off as rude. However, it’s also important to make sure that your actions match your intentions. If you’re feeling casual about a girl, don’t call or text her all the time, don’t see her more than once a week (once every week and a half or two weeks is best for setting a casual tone) and don’t be too heavy-handed with the “we should do this/that/and the other together IN THE FUTURE.” If you’re in constant contact with a girl and act all lovey-dovey with her, then she’s gonna think it’s relationship-time regardless of any disclaimer you give.
I think that HEF may be a great girl, and just not very attractive
Hi Erin,
Why don’t you cover NeilsNotes.com I think it has something to offer your Readership.
VQ.
For girls that end up as only friends after sleeping with a guy…if it was few dates first, perhaps he wasn’t that into you, and after the sex he just wasn’t interested in a relationship. If it was many dates first (like ella), I’m going to have to think that he had some issue with the sex/your body. Doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with you, you guys just didn’t match. Sex is sort of a double-edged sword. Too soon and you may worry he’s only there for your body, or, for some guys (not all), early sex = you won’t be g.f. material. Delaying sex “too long” means you spend time and get invested in one another before finding-out there’s some sexual/physical/body deal-breaker. I think you have to have sex when it feels “correct” to you. Make your own decision, then even if you 2 don’t stay together, at least you can feel you made your decisions consciously, and true to your self and your own standards.